Many times over the years have I been in this position. I have spent a fortune
on kit that in one way or another promises the earth (don't they all?) and after
a while - I have taken a careful view of the equipment, compared it against all
others (which this site goes some way of achieving) and have then concluded the
good bits, the bad bits and everything in between.
There is no alternative to
going through this problem and before you're through you WILL go there too.
But what's the good, the bad and the ugly of the Engl E670, or for that matter
what about Engl themselves and the employees, the failings, the warranties etc.
On this page, I cut the crap and get down to business about EXACTLY how good
the Engl E670 is with it's 4x12 V60 cab, how good (or bad) the company is, what
you can expect to pay and everything else in between, so read on - and learn!
I guess that I'll start with the good bits...
I bought my amp from a company within Europe.
This was simply because here in the UK most of the dealers I visited that sold
Engl amps seemed to not stock the better models (or worse did not know what Engl
even made) or tried hard to sell me something else they had in stock.
I'm picky. So I carried on looking around until one day I got fed up with
looking and decided to actually buy an Engl amp - but which one?
I looked around for evermore to find tracks of musicians using the better Engl
amps. When you do this you rapidly find that there are many musicians that you
are familiar with already who use Engl amps! So I listened and listened. I
wanted either an E660 or an E670 - which were both Special Editions - the E660
being the Special Edition of the Savage 120.
Getting a little annoyed at not being able to buy one (who knows what the UK
distributor is doing) I looked on Ebay. To my surprise there was a German
company selling both models on there - and they would ship to the UK - so they
should - this is now Europe!
Basically it was the Guitar Centre Cologne who got my
business (also Beyers Music is an associated company) and the two guys as
contacts were great - Winnie & Dennis... So now you know where to buy...
Don't waste your time with dealers who don't care - these guys are the business
- here's the number: Tell them Tony Mckenzie from the UK sent you!
When I received the amp it was factory fresh
(smelled good) and had never been opened. The E670 is an expensive amp so I
checked it out carefully.
When I plugged this amp in and eventually turned it on after reading the
manual VERY carefully it fired up first go. I guess the settings were still
there from the factory because the sounds were great rock tones.
The manual is a little heavy - but not as heavy as the amp! (which weighs
about 50 Kilos!) but it is worth reading the manual carefully. There is info
included from Horst Langer - the Designer - and he offers some great insight in
to the reasoning behind the design of the E670 and how you can get the best out
of a given feature in real life.
The manual is
thorough and the input of Horst Langer made it excellent.
I wanted to control this amp with a Ground Control from
Digital Music Corp. which I have used
with the TriAxis kit. I did not buy the Engl midi pedal, simply because I have
more midi control than NASA right here in my studio - so there was little point.
I also had a Boss GT8 which I wanted to control the E670 with - read what
happened with the GT8 under E670 in use to find
out what happened with that. I plugged in the Ground Control and it worked
fine first go - and has worked ever since.
At this time I used a Marshall 4x12 slanted front cab and that worked fine
with the E670, but was in my view a little thin.
I needed to ask a question about MIDI and the implementation applied to the
E670 so I sent an email, and quite quickly received a reply.
But this was not any old reply - this was an email back from the designer
himself - Horst Langer. Horst answered my question as completely as anyone
could, so the response here was exceptional.
I bought the Engl Cab second hand. The reasoning
for this was again down to cost. The particular cab listed at around Ј500.00 in
the UK, and even after discounts the cost of shipping from Europe was bad.
No one had one for me to try with the E670 so again I checked out every
single source including Harmony Central for info. It was all good - so I bought
a not very old one for Ј340.00 and collected it, plugged it it - hey presto - a
sound to kill for.
Now let's move on a little to the not quite so good
When the amp arrived, the front facia had come unstuck from the front of the
amp. This was not a major problem and it had happened in
transit. I carefully removed the chassis and refitted the front aluminium
bezel... there as good as new.
But it should be - it was new!
I found the information in the manual about
MIDI a little incomplete and it took a number of emails to Horst to determine
what I needed to know. It could have been the translation (Horst speaks better
German than I do!). Either way, Horst provided the answers to all my questions.
I felt that the dealer would not have been sufficiently equipped to answer my
very specific query - but Horst was the best guy to respond.
And the bad bits...
The cost of this Engl E670 was very high. I will not disclose what I paid,
but it was cheaper than anywhere else in Europe or the rest of the world -
Dennis & Winnie did a great job on price and shipping.
BUT - this amp cost the same basically as a Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier here
in the UK - and that's an arm and a leg - Mesa are high priced kit.
But not as High as the list price on the E670 which I believe was a cool
Like I said, I did not pay list price - but some people do. Mesa distributors
are bad for upping the price in their respective countries (just visit the USA
and buy a Triple Recto for just US$1700.00) here in the UK - Ј1800.00 - that's
nearly US$2900.00. Someone is taking the ****.
Remember Engl amps are made here in Europe (at
least this one was) and labour in Europe is high costing. But if you're more
expensive than a top brand that's imported from the USA included in the price
then this will lose business - and Engl in my view are at least as good and
probably better overall.
So - those are the good, the not so good and the bad points as I see them as
a regular user - just like you.
What if the amp malfunctions? I'll ship it back to the Factory in Germany -
simple really, most dealers would not know where to start anyway.
These are all my personal views. All
Thank you Dennis & Winnie for your service - it really was as good as you